Develop3D tests and compares the new AMD FirePro W5000, W7000 and W8000 along with the Nvidia Quadro K5000, specifically for CAD applications and price / performance. The cards were tested across three applications relevant to CAD-centric workflows.
Creo 2.0 - SPECapc benchmark which tests for wireframe, shaded and aggregates the two (composite). SolidWorks 2013 - tested with two different models — an engineering model with shading and edges, and a camera model with RealView, the real time rendering mode. 3ds Max 2011 - SPECapc benchmark, which features a wide variety of models to test for interactive graphics and GPU shaders.
Conclusion: The FirePro W8000 and the Quadro K5000 high-end card are overkill for most CAD-based workflows, with both the FirePro W5000 and W7000 offering excellent price/performance.
“The fact is that 3D performance in many CAD applications is still limited by the GHz of the CPU, which means high-end cards like the Quadro K5000 and FirePro W8000 are not able to fulfil their true potential.”
“There are glimpses of what more power can offer when a heavier load is placed on the GPU. The shaded (Creo), RealView (SolidWorks) and GPU shaders (3ds Max) tests all show a significant jump when moving from the FirePro W5000 to the W7000.”
Desktop Engineering has written up their first impressions of the new AMD FirePro W series: the mid-range W5000, the high-end W7000 and W8000, and the ultra-high-end W9000.
This line of boards are optimized for heterogeneous computing. With other graphics boards, if you want to use the GPU for computing, you have to hold off on graphics until computations were completed—or use two graphics cards, one for computing and one for graphics (e.g. Nvidia Tesla + Quadro). The GCN technology in the new FirePro W series enables execution of a graphics thread and up to two compute threads per clock cycle at the same time on the GPU.
Desktop Engineering ran the SPECviewperf 11 benchmarks. Although these are only synthetic benchmarks and not real world application use, the results are still interesting. Most noteworthy: the FirePro W5000 outpace the older, high-end V7900 and the new FirePro W7000 outperformed the V8800.
The Green500 List ranks of the world’s most energy-efficient supercomputers. This year, the AMD FirePro S10000 has taken the SANAM supercomputer to #2.
AMD worked with the University of Frankfurt’s Institute for Advanced Studies (FIAS) to research quantum chromodynamics. Powered by 420 AMD FirePro S10000 dual-GPU server graphics cards, the SANAM supercomputer can sustain 420 TFLOPS, providing a system energy efficiency of over 2.3 GFLOPS per watt and performing 2,351 million calculations per second per watt.
Overall, the performance of machines in the Green500 List has increased at a higher rate compared to power consumption. “That’s why the machines’ efficiencies are going up,” says Feng. “We are more performance for the same amount of power.” For machines based on commodity components—machines built with off-the-shelf components—coprocessors and GPUs are attributing a great deal to the efficiency gains. So much so that they are keeping pace and in the latest list even outpacing purpose built systems like IBM’s Blue Gene/Q.
Consuming a total of 3.6 kilowatts, the folks down in the basement lab at AMD have built the fastest multi-GPU compute server using eight of their flagship compute powerhouse boards, the new AMD FirePro S10000!
This 16 GPU (eight S10000s) Exxact Computing Server provides more than 8 TFLOPS of real world double precision computing performance. While these are early drivers, this still means you are still seeing around 70% efficiency of the theoretical peak double precision floating point performance of 11.84 TFLOPS (47.28 TFLOPS peak single precision performance!).
Here’s a look at the DGEMM result and a glimpse at what’s under the hood of the compute server:
Today both AMD and Nvidia announced their new flagship HPC server GPU solutions. AMD released the FirePro S10000 (pdf spec sheet), a dual-GPU card that combines both compute and 3D visualization on a single card. Nvdia announced their Tesla K20 line which target compute only (you need a Quadro card for the 3D visualization capabilities). Below is a chart comparing the specs and performance of the new cards, as well as comparisons to Nvidia's Tesla K10 and compute-specific M2090 cards
AMD FirePro S10000
Nvidia Tesla K10
Nvidia Tesla K20
Nvidia Tesla K20X
Nvidia Tesla M2090
Core Clock Speed
Peak Single Precision
Peak Double Precision
FirePro S10000 is a single card that delivers both compute and professional 3D graphics, (as opposed to needing a Quadro plus Tesla). The FirePro S10000 can handle 2 compute & 1 graphics operation simultaneously
FirePro S10000 is up to 7.8X as fast as the K10 for peak double precision and 1.3X as fast for peak single precision
FirePro S10000 has up to 1.5X the memory bandwidth as Tesla K10
FirePro S10000 can drive up to 5 high resolutions displays vs Tesla (oops you need a Quadro to drive any displays)
Puget systems tested AMD and Nvidia consumer (Radeon &s GeForce) and professional (FirePro & Quadro) cards for performance in Autodesk Maya 2013.
From the review:
“Our benchmarks clearly show that the AMD FirePro cards are the top performers in Maya 2013… It’s rare to see this large of a performance gap between difference series of cards, but our benchmarks clearly show that the AMD FirePro cards completely trounce all of the competition.”
“Unlike other software like AutoCad or Premiere, you will be giving up a lot of performance if you decide to go with a desktop card from the NVIDIA Geforce or AMD Radeon series. Of course, it you are primarily using software that does better with those cards and are only lightly using Maya 2013, those cards may still be the better choice. But if you are only concerned about Maya 2013 performance, you simply can’t beat the performance of the AMD FirePro W-series cards.”
Legit Reviews tests the new AMD FirePro W5000. both with standard benchmarking tools but more importantly in a real workflow.
From the review:
“Benchmarks only tell you half the story. What really matters when it comes to professional graphics solutions is software support. After all, these solutions are expensive and if they don’t deliver when they should its extremely problematic. Therefore we tested the AMD FirePro W5000 and Radeon HD 7970 in a typical 3D workflow. We started by creating a base mesh in Autodesk Maya 8.5, 2009, and 2012 in order to test compatibility across multiple versions of the software. From there we did some UV unwrapping so texturing could be started. After all that was accomplished, we exported the mesh for use in Autodesk’s Mudbox 2013 where a high res sculpt was done on the base mesh. After which the final mesh had its subdivision level reset to zero and we exported it again. After doing so, the final normal, ambient occlusion and displacement maps are generated and brought into Autodesk Maya 2012. We applied the maps to the base mesh we exported and followed it up with further tweaking until we were satisfied. Through this process we really get to see if the AMD FirePro W5000 offered a better user experience over the consumer oriented Radeon line, and let me tell you it is a night and day difference.”
“The fact the FirePro W5000 from AMD performed so well in old and new applications, as well as its attractive street price of just $448 shipped, it truly is an outstanding value in the professional graphics market.”
3D Artist magazine and Develop3D both review the new, wallet-friendly InterPro IPW-iB Core i7 CAD workstation. The 3D Artist review is from a shootout of 4 workstations under £1,200. The Develop3D is one of their ongoing series of workstation reviews.
From 3D Artist: Out of the four systems that we tested, three had near-identiucal configuration. The InterPro IPW-iB was the only ssystem to use an AMD graphcics card ... and it shows. In most of our tests, the FirePro W5000 GPU enabled the InterPro IPW-iB to storm ahead of the pack. The SpecViewPerf Maya benchmark and CINEBENCH OpenGL scores were almost double those of other workstations.
From Develop3D: The IPW-iB’s secret weapon is the FirePro W5000, one of AMD’s new Southern Islands Graphics Processing Units (GPUs). The FirePro W5000 plays its trump card inside PTC Creo 2.0. The graphics score of 5.85 is head and shoulders above anything currently possible with Nvidia Quadro GPUs. AMD’s close co-operation with PTC on developing the Creo 2.0 graphics engine seems to be playing big dividends here.
AnandTech has posted The AMD FirePro W9000 & W8000 Review: Part 1 covering the two high-end Tahiti GPUs of the new FirePro W-series family. The article covers both the technical details of the card as well as thier perception of how AMD is increasing their market share by embracing 3D performance, compute performance, stability and open standards.
The article has an excellent overview of the GCN architecture in terms of why it matters to the professional market - “an architecture that’s significantly better at compute without sacrificing graphics performance, and this is why the resulting GCN architecture is balanced for both compute and graphics.”
It also discusses other defining features including: Error Correcting Code (ECC) memory support, Partially Resident Texture technology, PowerTune (power throttling based on thermal tolerance), PCI-Express 3.0 support, and Video Codec Engine (VCE) hardware H.264 encoder,.
In part II, AnandTech will focus on performance and benchmarks (hopefully real world rather than just synthetic).
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